. >> and what immigration has meant to america, among those who say is a proud part of the development and evolution of this country is something that we essentially must cherish and preserve. i'm passionate about. it very divisive. just the fundamental notion of the melting pot, bringing people that have the ambition and drive to better themselves, better their fate, better their children's fate and pay back to the country that welcomes them is fundamental to who i am and i feel it is critical parker does not lose that. >> rose: in the process, not only doing well for themselves but doing well for the country by creating jobs. inventing things and doing a whole range of other things. >> yeah, i think that just cannot be understated. >> rose: so you made your way to the university of illinois at urbana champagne. >> that's right. >> rose: were you there when an creasean was there or not. >> yeah, we overlapped by a couple of years. >> did you know him. >> i certainly knew of him very well. we overlapped a couple of times in a hot dog place that he and i used to frequent. but he worked